Round 33 - Revision history

Sharkey at 12:39, 12 March 2023

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	\| round_id = 48		\| round_id = 48

	\| winner_player = Rio		\| winner_player = [[User:Rio\|Rio]]
	\| winner_dominion = Thou ist werewolf notteth swearwolf!		\| winner_dominion = Thou ist werewolf notteth swearwolf!
	\| winner_race = Lycanthrope		\| winner_race = Lycanthrope

	\| second_player = Wurstmeyer		\| second_player = [[User:Wurstmeyer\|Wurstmeyer]]
	\| second_dominion = Witch King		\| second_dominion = Witch King
	\| second_race = Nox		\| second_race = Nox

	\| third_player = Faith		\| third_player = [[User:Faith\|Faith]]
	\| third_dominion = Azog		\| third_dominion = Azog
	\| third_race = Goblin		\| third_race = Goblin

Oment: Rio I hate you for adding so many lists.

2023-03-11T01:24:21Z

Rio I hate you for adding so many lists.

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	In short: Ivetza was in a bad spot and basically had 4 options:		In short: Ivetza was in a bad spot and basically had 4 options:
	1. Hit a fat gobbo converter (#3 King of the Hill/DavetheGoliath) which would need barely any WW. He would then still likely (but not definitely) eat the hit from me.		* 1. Hit a fat gobbo converter (#3 King of the Hill/DavetheGoliath) which would need barely any WW. He would then still likely (but not definitely) eat the hit from me.
	2. Release all OP and try to defend me.		* 2. Release all OP and try to defend me.
	3. Hope that between his and mdk's training, they could prevent me from making the all in hit safely.		* 3. Hope that between his and mdk's training, they could prevent me from making the all in hit safely.
	4. Suicide allegorical and take the hit from me.		* 4. Suicide allegorical and take the hit from me.

	If I was in his spot at this stage I would have gone for option 4 so allegorical decided to leave most of his barren land un-built and rezoned a little to cover his buildings if he did eat the semi sui.		If I was in his spot at this stage I would have gone for option 4 so allegorical decided to leave most of his barren land un-built and rezoned a little to cover his buildings if he did eat the semi sui.

Oment at 23:30, 10 March 2023

2023-03-10T23:30:51Z

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	2023-03-05 12:59:09 Witch King (#5) invaded Endless Circle (#3) and captured 176 land.		2023-03-05 12:59:09 Witch King (#5) invaded Endless Circle (#3) and captured 176 land.

	2023-03-05 13:59:26 Victorious on the battlefield, Thou ist werewolf notteth swearwolf! (#1) conquered 495 land from Witch King (#5).		2023-03-05 13:59:26 Victorious on the battlefield, Thou ist werewolf notteth swearwolf! (#1) conquered 495 land from Witch King (#5). <-- Second largest ever OD hit, for just under an hour.

	2023-03-05 14:59:18 Azog (#5) invaded fellow dominion Thou ist werewolf notteth swearwolf! (#1) and captured 647 land.		2023-03-05 14:59:18 Azog (#5) invaded fellow dominion Thou ist werewolf notteth swearwolf! (#1) and captured 647 land. <-- Largest ever OD hit by 286a after generation.

	2023-03-05 18:59:58 The Smurfs (#3) invaded Azog (#5) and captured 465 land.		2023-03-05 18:59:58 The Smurfs (#3) invaded Azog (#5) and captured 465 land. <-- Would've been #4 largest, now only #6.

	2023-03-05 19:04:50 Strong Wind (#7) invaded Azog (#5) and captured 429 land.		2023-03-05 19:04:50 Strong Wind (#7) invaded Azog (#5) and captured 429 land.

	2023-03-05 19:30:50 The Nomad (#5) invaded The Smurfs (#3) and captured 398 land.		2023-03-05 19:30:50 The Nomad (#5) invaded The Smurfs (#3) and captured 398 land.
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	2023-03-05 22:07:12 Little Fett Riding Hood (#2) invaded The Smurfs (#3) and captured 345 land.		2023-03-05 22:07:12 Little Fett Riding Hood (#2) invaded The Smurfs (#3) and captured 345 land.

	2023-03-05 22:27:11 This is from Mathilda (#6) invaded The Smurfs (#3) and captured 381 land.		2023-03-05 22:27:11 This is from Mathilda (#6) invaded The Smurfs (#3) and captured 381 land. <-- MactheMeek had sat for a week on max temples and max GN, leading to this hit out of nowhere.

	2023-03-05 22:30:27 Go go Power Rangers (#3) invaded This is from Mathilda (#6) and captured 233 land.		2023-03-05 22:30:27 Go go Power Rangers (#3) invaded This is from Mathilda (#6) and captured 233 land.

Oment at 23:24, 10 March 2023

2023-03-10T23:24:21Z

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	That meant:		That meant:
	1. Wurst nearly full sending on a BF		* 1. Wurst nearly full sending on a BF
	2. I could be in EG so if Faith hit me, I would still not get into someone else's range. I didn't want to mess around with anyone else's full sui outside my range.		* 2. I could be in EG so if Faith hit me, I would still not get into someone else's range. I didn't want to mess around with anyone else's full sui outside my range.
	3. Neither of #5 could double me after the first hit with them both having sent once already.		* 3. Neither of #5 could double me after the first hit with them both having sent once already.
	4. Faith being on questionable DP vs others below on a full send would leave him open.		* 4. Faith being on questionable DP vs others below on a full send would leave him open.

	It didn't take long for this all to happen. Wurst made his BF and it was just a question of when to hit. Faith and myself had DP coming in later but we figured it's best to force him to send early so he'd be exposed before his mass DP arrived so I sent the hour after. Morale and not full Swamp helped by knocking off about 8k DP all told. Faith then sent the hour after that and we just sat and waited.		It didn't take long for this all to happen. Wurst made his BF and it was just a question of when to hit. Faith and myself had DP coming in later but we figured it's best to force him to send early so he'd be exposed before his mass DP arrived so I sent the hour after. Morale and not full Swamp helped by knocking off about 8k DP all told. Faith then sent the hour after that and we just sat and waited.

90.243.142.196: /* The Carnage */

2023-03-10T22:06:16Z

The Carnage

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	2023-03-05 23:20:43 Ib and Little Mristina (#2) invaded This is from Mathilda (#6) and captured 182 land.		2023-03-05 23:20:43 Ib and Little Mristina (#2) invaded This is from Mathilda (#6) and captured 182 land.

	2023-03-06 00:58:38 Bob Sacamano (#8) invaded This is from Mathilda (#6) and captured 165 land.		2023-03-06 00:58:38 Bob Sacamano (#8) invaded This is from Mathilda (#6) and captured 165 land.


			Sidenote - in every round our pack has won (8 wins including the shared one over 6 rounds), whether it was Gothia, Oment or myself, that person has taken at least one hit so this exchange carried on the tradition.

	=== The final bit===		=== The final bit===

90.243.142.196: /* The Beginning */

2023-03-10T21:49:26Z

The Beginning

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	Allegorical delayed hitting, coming out larger, the rest hit at OOP. I came OOP on 720 land with 56 GNs and hit a 75% bot on 542 land.		Allegorical delayed hitting, coming out larger, the rest hit at OOP. I came OOP on 720 land with 56 GNs and hit a 75% bot on 542 land.

	For the +12 hit, I was probably top OP and had a few options. The Nomad in #5 (DanTheMan) had hit for a lot of acres oop and then 9 houred for more so would be the largest attacker with incoming. Other options were the two delayed attacking Lycs (#4 - The GOAT/Ivetza and #6 - Unknown/mdk). I checked both early and looked hittable ~~but since~~ but focused on the nomad. I couldn't tell if he was someone experienced who could be trouble later or someone who just wanted to hit for loads of land, but given his size 12 hours out, I didn't want to take a chance with him so hit him for what would be my first Hit of the Day. (47a)		For the +12 hit, I was probably top OP and had a few options. The Nomad in #5 (DanTheMan) had hit for a lot of acres oop and then 9 houred for more so would be the largest attacker with incoming. Other options were the two delayed attacking Lycs (#4 - The GOAT/Ivetza and #6 - Unknown/mdk). I checked both early and looked hittable but focused on the nomad. I couldn't tell if he was someone experienced who could be trouble later or someone who just wanted to hit for loads of land, but given his size 12 hours out, I didn't want to take a chance with him so hit him for what would be my first Hit of the Day. (47a)

	After that, for the next few hits, I targeted larger explorers either taking HotD or 2nd/3rd largest so made good land and converts each time. On day 3 we noticed a big OP push by #6 Merfolk (Psychic Giraffe/mris). Realm 11 were looking strongest at this point and he could have taken out #11 FW (Strong Bad/cerbrus87) but he did nothing and ended up hitting relatively small instead.		After that, for the next few hits, I targeted larger explorers either taking HotD or 2nd/3rd largest so made good land and converts each time. On day 3 we noticed a big OP push by #6 Merfolk (Psychic Giraffe/mris). Realm 11 were looking strongest at this point and he could have taken out #11 FW (Strong Bad/cerbrus87) but he did nothing and ended up hitting relatively small instead.

Oment at 21:40, 10 March 2023

2023-03-10T21:40:08Z

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	Allegorical delayed hitting, coming out larger, the rest hit at OOP. I came OOP on 720 land with 56 GNs and hit a 75% bot on 542 land.		Allegorical delayed hitting, coming out larger, the rest hit at OOP. I came OOP on 720 land with 56 GNs and hit a 75% bot on 542 land.

	For the +12 hit, I was probably top OP and had a few options. The Nomad #5 (DanTheMan) had hit for a lot of acres oop and then 9 houred for more so would be the largest attacker with incoming. Other options were the two delayed attacking Lycs (#4 - The GOAT/Ivetza and #6 - Unknown/mdk). I checked both early and looked hittable but since but focused on the nomad. I couldn't tell if he was someone experienced who could be trouble later or someone who just wanted to hit for loads of land, but given his size 12 hours out, I didn't want to take a chance with him so hit him for what would be my first Hit of the Day. (47a)		For the +12 hit, I was probably top OP and had a few options. The Nomad in #5 (DanTheMan) had hit for a lot of acres oop and then 9 houred for more so would be the largest attacker with incoming. Other options were the two delayed attacking Lycs (#4 - The GOAT/Ivetza and #6 - Unknown/mdk). I checked both early and looked hittable but since but focused on the nomad. I couldn't tell if he was someone experienced who could be trouble later or someone who just wanted to hit for loads of land, but given his size 12 hours out, I didn't want to take a chance with him so hit him for what would be my first Hit of the Day. (47a)

	After that, for the next few hits, I targeted larger explorers either taking HotD or 2nd/3rd largest so made good land and converts each time. On day 3 we noticed a big OP push by #6 Merfolk (Psychic Giraffe/mris). Realm 11 were looking strongest at this point and he could have taken out #11 FW (Strong Bad/cerbrus87) but he did nothing and ended up hitting relatively small instead.		After that, for the next few hits, I targeted larger explorers either taking HotD or 2nd/3rd largest so made good land and converts each time. On day 3 we noticed a big OP push by #6 Merfolk (Psychic Giraffe/mris). Realm 11 were looking strongest at this point and he could have taken out #11 FW (Strong Bad/cerbrus87) but he did nothing and ended up hitting relatively small instead.

Oment at 21:39, 10 March 2023

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	We went with:		We went with:
	Me - Lyc (Thou ist werewolf notteth swearwolf!)		* Me (Rio)- Lyc (Thou ist werewolf notteth swearwolf!)
	Allegorical - Liz (Thou shall not murder draftees)		* Allegorical - Liz (Thou shall not murder draftees)
	Gothia - FW (You shall have no other games before Dom)		* Gothia - FW (You shall have no other games before Dom)
	BigBell - Spirit (Thou Shalt Not Share Info Ops)		* BigBell - Spirit (Thou Shalt Not Share Info Ops)
	Oment - Kobold (Remember The No Ares Friday, To Keep It Holy)		* Oment - Kobold (Remember The No Ares Friday, To Keep It Holy)

	Allegorical delayed hitting, coming out larger, the rest hit at OOP. I came OOP on 720 land with 56 GNs and hit a 75% bot on 542 land.		Allegorical delayed hitting, coming out larger, the rest hit at OOP. I came OOP on 720 land with 56 GNs and hit a 75% bot on 542 land.

Oment at 21:38, 10 March 2023

2023-03-10T21:38:57Z

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	When we took ops on mdk we saw he'd stopped training, had FG and Ares on but not Midas. Although it might have meant he was stocking plat and forgot Midas, Oment suggested he may be abandoning which turned out to be the case. Ivetza recently had been my main OP threat, but mdk looked to have more longevity and was probably my bigger rival through the round.		When we took ops on mdk we saw he'd stopped training, had FG and Ares on but not Midas. Although it might have meant he was stocking plat and forgot Midas, Oment suggested he may be abandoning which turned out to be the case. Ivetza recently had been my main OP threat, but mdk looked to have more longevity and was probably my bigger rival through the round.

	~~Goat~~ was sat in 3rd place with good prestige and a fair amount of WWs so was in an okay position to start his transition, but we didn't hear from him again.		Ivetza was sat in 3rd place with good prestige and a fair amount of WWs so was in an okay position to start his transition, but we didn't hear from him again.

	===The run away===		===The run away===
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	My strategy was to build plenty of homes and some GT since I had so many hills to use. I peaked at just about 60k in population, which was about 20k more than second tier attackers. I also still had lots of room to spare in Keep so despite a massive amount of training, managed to hang onto pop above 50k for a long time. It took me about 2 days to get my OP close to what Art was defending by which point people were no longer safe to enter range.		My strategy was to build plenty of homes and some GT since I had so many hills to use. I peaked at just about 60k in population, which was about 20k more than second tier attackers. I also still had lots of room to spare in Keep so despite a massive amount of training, managed to hang onto pop above 50k for a long time. It took me about 2 days to get my OP close to what Art was defending by which point people were no longer safe to enter range.

	Prior to mdk's abandonment, he had been training OP for a while and with me out of range of everyone, ~~Goat~~ releasing OP and allegorical having his OP and DP spent, it left a giant void for top OP outside of me. Some of the converted goblins (particularly Azog in #5 - Faith) started to try to fill that void. Usually overtraining is OP and undertraining DP is a classic converter mistake, but in this unexpected circumstance, it ended up being a good move.		Prior to mdk's abandonment, he had been training OP for a while and with me out of range of everyone, Ivetza releasing OP and allegorical having his OP and DP spent, it left a giant void for top OP outside of me. Some of the converted goblins (particularly Azog in #5 - Faith) started to try to fill that void. Usually overtraining is OP and undertraining DP is a classic converter mistake, but in this unexpected circumstance, it ended up being a good move.

	Players were starting to line up outside at 74.XX% range - both attackers and explorers. Those explorers were unsafe by something between 30k and 60k. Attackers would be unsafe by 80k+ if they sent within my range and most were either hittable all in or just barely safe where it would still be squeaky bum time for them depending on how training matched up.		Players were starting to line up outside at 74.XX% range - both attackers and explorers. Those explorers were unsafe by something between 30k and 60k. Attackers would be unsafe by 80k+ if they sent within my range and most were either hittable all in or just barely safe where it would still be squeaky bum time for them depending on how training matched up.

Oment at 21:37, 10 March 2023

2023-03-10T21:37:50Z